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United Airlines cargo planes to share space again with passengers
United Airlines is moving from cargo-only flights to shared space with passengers on a couple key international routes, while also adding non-stop service Shanghai-San Francisco. (www.freightwaves.com) More...
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Sounds like a Convee!(Not sure if I spelled it right... Not a new idea... Used to be done in the far north years ago.
No, not a combi in that sense. No cargo on the main deck with people separated by a wall. Cargo just below, like normal. . . But combis are interesting aircraft.
Lufthansa flew a 747 combi from SFO to FRA. Purser took me in the back and there were a couple of cars, pallets and 6 horses going to the Middle East
Wow, that's cool
I knew I had that spelling wrong.... If things continue... they may just do that.... But carrying cargo with passengers is really nothing new... It is just that now, with less passengers and subsequent less baggage they have a lot more room.
Yes, but United and others were operating planes only for cargo during COVID. No passengers, so this news is basically going back to normal, transitioning from cargo-only to dual carriage.
South African Airways Flight 295 incident in November 1987 pretty much did in Combi’s, especially after the FAA required new on board fire suppression equipment. Last one sold was 2002. I ‘get it’ that some places like the Arctic area it’s the only way to carry passengers & cargo.
From Wiki: “...the Federal Aviation Administration introduced new regulations in 1993 specifying that manual fire fighting must not be the primary means of fire suppression in the cargo compartment of the main deck. Complying with these new standards required weight increases, which made the 747 Combi no longer viable. Nevertheless, the Combi remained in the 747 product line up until 2002, when the last 747-400 Combi was delivered to KLM.“
From Wiki: “...the Federal Aviation Administration introduced new regulations in 1993 specifying that manual fire fighting must not be the primary means of fire suppression in the cargo compartment of the main deck. Complying with these new standards required weight increases, which made the 747 Combi no longer viable. Nevertheless, the Combi remained in the 747 product line up until 2002, when the last 747-400 Combi was delivered to KLM.“
I recently wrote about a new type of combi - https://www.freightwaves.com/news/the-flying-flexible-people-freighter-meet-the-flexcombi
Great read, thanks for sharing! I noticed one thing though in your article - "Loose cargo and baggage go in the lower hold, which is too small in narrow-body planes for containers"
Don't the 757 and A320 take containers in the hold?
Don't the 757 and A320 take containers in the hold?
James - airlines use containers for baggage, however they are smaller and narrower than the cargo pallets packed for freighter aircraft. The lower hold on the smaller aircraft cannot accommodate those much-larger pallets.
Very interesting.. Thanks for sharing.
