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U.S. Airways Dash 8-100 Belly Landing at Newark
A U.S. Airways Dash 8-100 en-route from Pittsburgh to Newark was forced to make a belly landing early this morning. After noticing one of the landing gear were not going down, the pilot elected to land with all gear up. (www.nypost.com) और अधिक...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Is it my imagination or does the Emergency response seem slow. He was on the ground and stopped as the trucks we were way down the taxiway.
I'm not familiar with Newarks ARFF operations so I can't speak for how they set up and pre-position their apparatus.
However when a pilot declares an in-flight emergency. It is almost always dispatched as an Alert II, in which they are sub-categorized as Hydraulic and Non-Hydraulic emergencies. Issues with flight controls, and landing gear are examples of Hydraulic type alerts. Electrical problems, Smell of Smoke or Fire would be a non-hydraulic or general Alert II type.
The staging of ARFF apparatus is most often different for these two different types of Alert II's. For Hydraulic problem/Alert II's, the staging of the ARFF vehicles is further away of the and out of way of the runway intended for landing by the aircraft declaring an emergency. This is because if an aircraft cartwheels or loses control upon landing there is no danger to ARFF vehicles of being struck/impacted by the aircraft and becoming part of the incident.
For General type Alert II's, such as report of smoke in the cockpit, that is where the ARFF apparatus will stage on either end of the runway as well as along the parallel taxiway. Then "Chase" the aircraft upon touchdown and rollout.
However when a pilot declares an in-flight emergency. It is almost always dispatched as an Alert II, in which they are sub-categorized as Hydraulic and Non-Hydraulic emergencies. Issues with flight controls, and landing gear are examples of Hydraulic type alerts. Electrical problems, Smell of Smoke or Fire would be a non-hydraulic or general Alert II type.
The staging of ARFF apparatus is most often different for these two different types of Alert II's. For Hydraulic problem/Alert II's, the staging of the ARFF vehicles is further away of the and out of way of the runway intended for landing by the aircraft declaring an emergency. This is because if an aircraft cartwheels or loses control upon landing there is no danger to ARFF vehicles of being struck/impacted by the aircraft and becoming part of the incident.
For General type Alert II's, such as report of smoke in the cockpit, that is where the ARFF apparatus will stage on either end of the runway as well as along the parallel taxiway. Then "Chase" the aircraft upon touchdown and rollout.
Well, that makes sense and cartwheeling is always a possibility on a belly landing. As someone has said here though, Capt. Howard is an excellent pilot. Might have been different if somebody else.
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That's what I thought too. There is split thinking on how to stage and it sort of depends on the local chief but the most prevalent is to stage at arrival end and then chase. If anything bad does happen, then crash units are behind the plane. If they staged the other way, plane could come into them. Different strokes.
Yes it does. Seems as though they would be pre-staged a little closer. They had to have cleared all other traffic on the ground.
Preach, that's the first thing I thought also. Gotta wonder how much advance time they were scrambled by the tower. I saw this exact thing happen at IAD with one of our ERJ-170's that landed on the nose. Pax were out the door, down the slide and walking away before the first crash vehicle arrived. Airplanes landing gear up don't usually roll to the end.
Video has emerged of the incident.