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Airbus' New Black Boxes Will Eject From Crashing Planes, So They're Easier to Find.

IT'S BEEN MORE than three years since Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 vanished, and after spending $150 million and scouring a huge chunk of the Indian Ocean, the international search effort has turned up just a few scraps of metal. It now seems likely investigators will never find the bulk of the wreckage nor the Boeing 777's black boxes, and as a result will never really know why it went down, or how to prevent it happening again. ( More...

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Ruger9X19 6
How long until cockpit cameras are added to the audio and control data. That would be the real safety investigation upgrade. A picture is worth a 1000 words.
That's a huge political problem; the unions simply won't allow it. Same fight happened before they instituted CVRs.
Ruger9X19 1
I don't think it is as contentious as it once was, most pilots I have spoken with don't have a problem with the concept as they are used to the intrusiveness of the CVR already, getting the Union to go along might be a bit harder but shouldn't be insurmountable. Policies limiting use of recorded info for administrative action would go a long way toward nullifying any union objection.
Mike Mohle 8
Well, they are on the right track. How about a jettisonable pod with DRONE that will fly the pod all they way back to Toulouse, France? Now that would be innovation!
pilotjag 3
Maybe a few hundred years from now, that will be a reality
Roy Hunte 3
Or at least the nearest area of civilization.
Mike Mohle 13
Yes, but to the French they are the only area of civilization....
jmilleratp -1
The United States could start taking just as much pride in our country, instead of bowing to all the foreign countries would just want our money, etc. Also, the United States is here because the French were important in our war for independence. Learning history is a good thing.
Boeing . . . , are you paying attention?
Shenghao Han -1
Nope, they are trying to save their a** to keep the company afloat.
boughbw -1
Yep. It's a pretty sweet deal when your company is subsidized by multiple governments.
Leo Volz 4
American companies are subsidized by the government all the time - bailouts, corporate welfare, over priced government contracts... The major difference is that the Euro governments are upfront and proactive about their subsidies, whereas the American government usually arrives with money when it's already too late.
Allan Bowman 1
How does the black box know it's crashing? Will they self eject in bumpy air pockets? I'd rather have periodic burst data to a satellite containing position, altitude, and critical parameters. That way the data actually gets to SAR.
bbabis 1
As a pilot, you know things aren't going well when the black boxes eject.
bbabis 1
Totally unneeded. They are assuming that these would have worked in a few major past accidents but IMO they are wrong. We already have up to the second FDR data delivered via sat-link because planes don't care about privacy issues. Duplicate CVR data could just as easily be sent and only reviewed in case of incident or accident.
Ruger9X19 4
Depends on the bandwidth costs. This is likely a cheaper solution than ongoing fleet wide data streams of unnecessary information. Why stream and store data for every flight when it will very rarely be of any benefit.
bbabis 3
The reason for the whole exercise is that It would be very beneficial information if needed. Bandwidth is getting incredibly cheap and storage space would be minimal due to being constantly reused just as the boxes do now. You would also gain the ability to quickly make a copy if needed before reuse. A negative is that it would open us up to Russian hacking. <grin>
Ruger9X19 4
Good points. I just think the Airlines have enough trouble keeping their networks working that pay the bills (ticketing, EFB distribution etc). The cynic in me can't really trust them to maintain a good enough network to maintain critical safety information.
Brent Bahler 2
The data can be securely streamed in real-time and stored in the cloud. Police departments across the country are utilizing it to store their body-cam videos (uploaded by each officer at the end of his or her end of shift). The company that makes Taser also makes body-cams, and they offer the cloud storage option for efficiency and security.


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