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A Badly Damaged 33-Year-Old United 767 Comes Back From The Dead
Eight months after one of United Airlines’ Boeing 767-300ERs suffered substantial frame damage during landing, the aircraft lives to see another day. (www.gatechecked.com) More...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Not so sure about the “pilot lying” comment but for sure it sounds like pilot error on the landing. Seeing it was the first officer doing the landing and then the captain assumed control. Tells me, perhaps not a lot of hours on type aircraft.
Possibly 767s don't recover well from a hard bounced landing, the cases of porpoising and fuse creases (damage goes more than skin deep) seem to include a lot of 767s. Got this list from a post at a forum that focuses on the airliners rather than the pilots:
1992 AAL in GRU
1992 OZ in CJU
1993 LOT in ORD
2000 Vietnam AL in SGN
1997 AZA in EWR
2004 LAB in VVI
2005 Skyservice in PUJ
2009 RAM in JFK
2010 TOM in BRS
2012 ANA in NRT
2018 Atlas in PSM
2020 Omni in SNN
2023 UA in IAH
2023 DHL in Beirut
Lot of articles on the GA side about how to recover a bounced landing, rather than just going around. But what works with small a/c doesn't always translate to the stretched airliners. Pilot error, but it's worth looking into how much training it takes to break the habits learned while flying smaller a/c.
1992 AAL in GRU
1992 OZ in CJU
1993 LOT in ORD
2000 Vietnam AL in SGN
1997 AZA in EWR
2004 LAB in VVI
2005 Skyservice in PUJ
2009 RAM in JFK
2010 TOM in BRS
2012 ANA in NRT
2018 Atlas in PSM
2020 Omni in SNN
2023 UA in IAH
2023 DHL in Beirut
Lot of articles on the GA side about how to recover a bounced landing, rather than just going around. But what works with small a/c doesn't always translate to the stretched airliners. Pilot error, but it's worth looking into how much training it takes to break the habits learned while flying smaller a/c.
It’s also worth acknowledging that most of the damaged aircraft on that list were early production versions of the 300ER. Boeing eventually strengthened the frames in the forward fuselage to reduce the chance of the kind of buckling seen in most of these accidents.
That's well stated. I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone being born already knowing how to fly. I totally agree it's all about the training. Like almost every accident, it's a chain of events. Breaking that chain is the key to safety. That accident could quite possibly be traced back years in the pilots training history.
Totally agree it's not about pilot lying. And IF it was an error, IMO it was probably not intentional. I don't think I ever heard in any of my thousands of preflight briefings Any pilot say "today let's make lots of errors intentionally. Maybe we can crash today" As to flying time - Checking facts from reputable sources might serve us all better.
Excuse me but A321 is hardly a replacement for a B763