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How the Boeing jet no one wanted became the plane airlines scour the planet for (BA, DAL)
The Boeing 717-200 went out of production in 2006. Only 156 of the planes have been built. A decade later, the airlines that operate the 717 want more of them. (www.yahoo.com) और अधिक...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
I've never had a bad ride on any variant of a MadDog. Ditto for the 727's. I think it's somehow related to the power being on the fuselage instead of hanging off the flexing wings.
I'd like to see an engineer's math on that, but it makes sense to a layman. You're concentrating mass in the middle. Should roll more easily, but maybe pitch less. And the wings make pretty good roll dampers anyway. I wonder if that increases wing flex, since the mass is more concentrated at the center of the wing truss. I suppose it might just. Softer suspension equals a more comfortable ride? That would explain an odd conversation I had with a flight attendant the other day. (She said she's had much better rides in regionals, generally, than in 737/A320s or even widebodies.)
Hmm . . . Any engineers floating around here want to weigh in?
Hmm . . . Any engineers floating around here want to weigh in?
From a spotter's perspective, they are visually more distinctive than the endless parade of look-alike twin underwing jets.
We fly the B-717 from time to time on Hawaiian's interisland flights, it is a very comfortable, quiet aircraft, I like flying this type. Its perfect for these short hop flights.
Aloha!
Mike
Aloha!
Mike
The 717 is a very modern DC 9- 30. It has upgraded modern quiet fuel saving engines. Mc Donald Douglas improved upon a tried and true aircraft. Unfortunately MD did not survive as an independent company. When Boeing took over MD there was no reason to continue building an aircraft that was in direct competition with the 737 line. So the MD 90 aka 717 was dropped.
All of the Delta 717 aircraft that were acquired from Southwest were Aircraft that belonged to Midwest Airlines out of Milwaukee. Sadly Northwest Airlines owned 49% of Midwest, when the Merger of Delta with Northwest occurred it was determined to shut down Midwest. The sad part when the Midwest Pilots asked to be included in some way, even getting interviews with Delta they were rebuffed. When Republic Airways took over some of the Midwest routes, Midwest Pilots were offered jobs on the bottom of the Republic (not the Republic that became part of Northwest in the 1980s) list.
The reason they were not given there hire dates at Midwest was that they had no equipment i.e. Aircraft. So they had no right to any seniority claim. So those Midwest Pilots who were still with the company at the end who had the most seniority were not offered a chance at employment where their aircraft went. I.e. Air Tran, Southwest or Delta. This is where their entire fleet ended up. Wonderful thing this industry. If you were a Midwest Pilot and stayed with the company to the end, you pretty well at that time got the short end of the stick. If you got furloughed earlier you got a job with another carrier that would end up with the Midwest Aircraft. You jumped the seniority list. The 717 is a fine aircraft as well as all the DC9 series aircraft were. They outlasted the competition they were built to compete with , 727, by many years it by the way was also a fine aircraft.
Comments about the 757, it is truly a pilots aircraft, over powered fun to fly in a wonderful cockpit. While I was flying them, I was told it was our most economic nominal and profitable aircraft when operated at its optimum load. It was used heavily on all nightt red eye flights that were low yield. I am surprised that so many are now being sent to their deaths in the bone yards. It has been commented how uncomfortable planes are, well when you jam seats together wit 17 inches of leg room nothing is going to be comfortable. Remember once upon a time there were only 100 seats on 707s.
All of the Delta 717 aircraft that were acquired from Southwest were Aircraft that belonged to Midwest Airlines out of Milwaukee. Sadly Northwest Airlines owned 49% of Midwest, when the Merger of Delta with Northwest occurred it was determined to shut down Midwest. The sad part when the Midwest Pilots asked to be included in some way, even getting interviews with Delta they were rebuffed. When Republic Airways took over some of the Midwest routes, Midwest Pilots were offered jobs on the bottom of the Republic (not the Republic that became part of Northwest in the 1980s) list.
The reason they were not given there hire dates at Midwest was that they had no equipment i.e. Aircraft. So they had no right to any seniority claim. So those Midwest Pilots who were still with the company at the end who had the most seniority were not offered a chance at employment where their aircraft went. I.e. Air Tran, Southwest or Delta. This is where their entire fleet ended up. Wonderful thing this industry. If you were a Midwest Pilot and stayed with the company to the end, you pretty well at that time got the short end of the stick. If you got furloughed earlier you got a job with another carrier that would end up with the Midwest Aircraft. You jumped the seniority list. The 717 is a fine aircraft as well as all the DC9 series aircraft were. They outlasted the competition they were built to compete with , 727, by many years it by the way was also a fine aircraft.
Comments about the 757, it is truly a pilots aircraft, over powered fun to fly in a wonderful cockpit. While I was flying them, I was told it was our most economic nominal and profitable aircraft when operated at its optimum load. It was used heavily on all nightt red eye flights that were low yield. I am surprised that so many are now being sent to their deaths in the bone yards. It has been commented how uncomfortable planes are, well when you jam seats together wit 17 inches of leg room nothing is going to be comfortable. Remember once upon a time there were only 100 seats on 707s.
The 717 is the most comfortable, quiet ride you can experience. Too bad the flights were only 30 minutes long.
I can't wait for my vacation this year and to fly Hawaiian again in those wonderful aircraft.