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U.S. Airways Dash 8-100 Belly Landing at Newark

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A U.S. Airways Dash 8-100 en-route from Pittsburgh to Newark was forced to make a belly landing early this morning. After noticing one of the landing gear were not going down, the pilot elected to land with all gear up. (www.nypost.com) और अधिक...

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michaeld747
Michael Demura 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqJfGTCb7M8

Video has emerged of the incident.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Is it my imagination or does the Emergency response seem slow. He was on the ground and stopped as the trucks we were way down the taxiway.
splopsff
scott lord 2
I'm not familiar with Newarks ARFF operations so I can't speak for how they set up and pre-position their apparatus.

However when a pilot declares an in-flight emergency. It is almost always dispatched as an Alert II, in which they are sub-categorized as Hydraulic and Non-Hydraulic emergencies. Issues with flight controls, and landing gear are examples of Hydraulic type alerts. Electrical problems, Smell of Smoke or Fire would be a non-hydraulic or general Alert II type.

The staging of ARFF apparatus is most often different for these two different types of Alert II's. For Hydraulic problem/Alert II's, the staging of the ARFF vehicles is further away of the and out of way of the runway intended for landing by the aircraft declaring an emergency. This is because if an aircraft cartwheels or loses control upon landing there is no danger to ARFF vehicles of being struck/impacted by the aircraft and becoming part of the incident.

For General type Alert II's, such as report of smoke in the cockpit, that is where the ARFF apparatus will stage on either end of the runway as well as along the parallel taxiway. Then "Chase" the aircraft upon touchdown and rollout.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Well, that makes sense and cartwheeling is always a possibility on a belly landing. As someone has said here though, Capt. Howard is an excellent pilot. Might have been different if somebody else.

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preacher1
preacher1 4
That's what I thought too. There is split thinking on how to stage and it sort of depends on the local chief but the most prevalent is to stage at arrival end and then chase. If anything bad does happen, then crash units are behind the plane. If they staged the other way, plane could come into them. Different strokes.
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
Yes it does. Seems as though they would be pre-staged a little closer. They had to have cleared all other traffic on the ground.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Preach, that's the first thing I thought also. Gotta wonder how much advance time they were scrambled by the tower. I saw this exact thing happen at IAD with one of our ERJ-170's that landed on the nose. Pax were out the door, down the slide and walking away before the first crash vehicle arrived. Airplanes landing gear up don't usually roll to the end.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Have times changed a lot? I had thought when they knew a plane was coming in w/o its landing gear, the runway was foamed prior to its touching down.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
They do not prefoam the runways anymore.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Thanks Sparkie. (haha-now I feel even older.)
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
LOL, I used to believe that years add up, but as I get older, I think they Multiply...
michaeld747
Michael Demura 2
Sorry, looks like the flight originated from Philedephia, not Pittsburgh.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
I cannot understand how this happened. I have worked in the Past for piedmont swing a wrench for 3 years and maintenance control for 1 year. I see no way that that gear could have gotten stuck and not extended even with manual extension. The system is so simple it is fail proof.. Will have to watch this one closely to see what the outcome is.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
I don't know anything about that airplane, but it seems like it would be an easy free-fall.
Is it???
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
I am very familiar with that system... It free falls and usually locks on its own, but it also has a hand pump hyd actuator that confirms the locked and down. The only thing that I can think of is that the manual release handle did not pull and or broke. Cable could have jumped off a pulley and jammed. I cannot think of anything else that could have caused that failure.

Glad no one got hurt.... LOL, was reading the article and they say the passengers were bussed to the terminal... LOL, do we think that they would actually make them walk... Talking about an obvious... But unlike the AIRPLANE movie, we cannot taxi on the belly too well... :)
DashTrash
DashTrash 1
Preliminary report said the left main extended half way, retracted, still wouldn't come down even with manual extension. The nose gear should free fall almost as good as the mains along with assistance from the wind, but I still had a friend land on with the nose retracted.
joejdf46
JOE fields 1
Pilots must have had their ducks in a row!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
The Pilot I know and have worked with him. Capt Powers is an excellent pilot and he knows the Dash 8 well.
Serviceman
Gary Hatch 1
When the USAIR Express change their colors? Must be a fairly new paint job.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/US-Airways-Express/De-Havilland-Canada/1911114/&sid=8b640c51e6326fc4d309abf07d0ac6ba
colemathews
cole mathews -2
preacher1
preacher1 2
I been wondering all day why you made that remark, "Naturally"???????????????????????
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
And it didn't take you long to figure out who was going to defend it.. LOL
preacher1
preacher1 2
nope, I taking it your're surviving MSP? I just got in. I'm eating supper
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Dash 8 100, 200, and 300's have an excellent gear history. This is the first Gear up landing due to a gear not coming down in the World History of this plane. For the amount of hours and the beating these planes get they do a great job. Don't rag it too bad.
guyryan
guy ryan -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Plane makes belly landing at Newark Airport, no injuries reported

A US Airways flight made a belly landing at Newark International Airport in the early morning hours on Saturday after the plane reported a problem with its landing gear, a spokesman for the airline said.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/18/18340087-plane-makes-belly-landing-at-newark-airport-no-injuries-reported?lite
sakwad
Scott kimmel -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

US Airways plane makes belly landing in Newark

US Airways(piedmont) plane makes belly landing in Newark

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/20130518newark-us-airways-plane-belly-landing-gear-piedmont-brk.html
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Landing gear issue leads to plane's belly landing

A US Airways Express flight with 34 people aboard was forced to make a belly landing at Newark International Airport after experiencing landing gear trouble.

http://news.yahoo.com/landing-gear-issue-leads-planes-belly-landing-081148090.html

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